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To the literally dozens of Republicans who have said to me "I can't believe Hatch is my candidate" please realize, Senator Orrin Hatch is not the Republican's candidate. He is no one's candidate but his own and the few people who pay him millions of dollars for favors. Pete Ashdown is your candidate. Finally, a Senate candidate who represents more than just his own career.

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Blogger pramahaphil said...

Here is my final opinion of Hatch.

"Despite my inability to reconcile my sociopolitical views to Ashdown's platform, I have committed myself to vote Ashdown. As in the words of my father-in-law, "it is the only message that I can send to Hatch." Although I agree with Pete Ashdown on a very limited number of issues, I believe he will be a true representative of Utah and not only his political party. Hatch has long since trashed his connections to his constituents for highly visible party leadership positions. Hatch, you have had a impressive career, but lets be honest, everything has to do with you and your political visibility."

I'm guessing the election will go the way they have for the past thirty years, but it is obvious that Hatch has long since sold out those whom he represents.

11/07/2006 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger That One Guy said...

well said, both of you.

thanks.

11/07/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger Reach Upward said...

Predictably, Hatch won by a comfortable margin, despite doing so without the benefit of my vote. Did we succeed in sending him a message? You bet we did. However, I doubt he will perceive it to be the message we had hoped to send.

11/08/2006 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger WP said...

I hope Pete will work behind the scenes and run again in six years. By then Hatch may not be able to remember his own name. He really should retire and let others with a new vision for Utah step in such as Mr. Ashdown. I took Pete's signs down in my yard this morning. He ran a good race.. Too bad this state is so Republican

11/08/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Reach Upward said...

WP, being unable to remember his name might not be so important. You just have to worry about his longevity. I think he's trying to outdo Strom Thurmond. If Hatch lives that long, he might still by on the ballot when today's Kindergarteners have kids old enough to vote.

11/08/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My prediction - Hatch will not finish out his six years. Huntsman will run again and win. Then Hatch will retire and Huntsman will be appointed to finish his term. Then Huntsman will be the incumbent in 2012

11/08/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Marshall said...

It's obvious to me that Utah did do something yesterday - they made the right choice in electing Senator Hatch for another term. Senator Hatch does a lot for Utah, and its comforting to know that the majority of Utah's citizens can see that.

I mean no disrespect to Mr. Ashdown. He ran a good race and addressed some very important issues. Unfortunately, he is not ready to represent the State. Democrats in Utah need to do better in nominating candidates who will both represent Utah as a whole and have some level of political efficacy in Washington. In the end, Ashdown had neither and that is why he lost.

As usual, failure on the part of Democrats to offer a candidate that Utah citizens would feel comfortable choosing over someone like Senator Hatch was a key factor to Mr. Ashdown's loss.

I would say to WP that it's not so much that this state is "so Republican" as it is that the alternatives are iffy at best. Congressman Matheson has proven that Democrats can win in Utah. Congressman Matheson consistently wins the hearts of voters who traditionally vote Republican. This is not because he is some sort of anomaly. This is because he understands the people of Utah and what they are looking for in a representative.

If Democrats really wanted to succeed in Utah, they would take a page out of Congressman Matheson's campaign book.

11/08/2006 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Alienated Wannabe said...

Marshall, I agree that Senator Hatch was clearly the best choice. I am always confused when so-called social conservatives support a Senate candidate who is a Democrat. I doubt that such people really understand what happens to the federal bench when a Democrat controlled Senate has the power to “advise and consent” conservative judicial nominees out of the system.

One of the great achievements of Orrin Hatch, beginning in the Reagan years and stretching into the tenure of George W. Bush, has been the gradual building of a more conservative and less activist judiciary. We live in dreadful days, as it is, where unelected and unaccountable liberal judges order legislators to make laws contrary to the will of the people. Can you imagine what it would be like on the federal level if it were not for all the work of the Republican presidents and senators of the past quarter century?

This has been a major part of the quiet, but all important, struggle for the soul of our nation. Senator Hatch has been one of the heroes in this struggle. If Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, it will be because the American people elected enough Republican Presidents and enough Republican Senators to build-up a sufficiently conservative judiciary. The Democrat base seeks abortion on demand. If that offends you, then you should never vote for a Democrat senate candidate. Some are apparently tired of hearing that bit of truth, but attention fatigue does not change the facts. And, that is a fact.

11/09/2006 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger Pete Ashdown said...

We all agree abortion is not a desired outcome in any case, no matter the origination of the pregnancy.

There are Republicans and Democrats alike who believe abortion and other personal decisions should not be made by the state. Only by working together instead of fighting for the polarizing extreme will we ever make a difference in reducing the number of elective abortions nationwide.

Nobody of any political stripe, who supports abortion only in the case of rape, incest, and health of the mother has been able to tell me how they expect the government to divine what is rape and what is not.

33 years of politicization of abortion and all some can do is continue to hope for the Supreme Court to overturn what they say goes against the will of the people. Did anyone watch what happened in South Dakota this election? Why has it been 17 years since Senator Hatch proposed banning abortion through amendment? Could it be because the will of the people is not for the outright banning of abortion? We might as well ban sex.

I spoke of quantitatively reducing abortions if elected. It can be done without banning because I've talked to the local leaders who are doing it through contraception and education in addition to preaching abstinence. Its happening right here in Utah and it could happen nationwide if we had leaders who didn't want to lose their political whipping post.

I ran with honor and integrity and being frank and honest about social issues was an essential part of that. I refuse to politicize abortion, but instead seek solutions that will work to address the problem. Do you think Senator Hatch has done the same during his 30 year tenure which has encompassed the entire abortion debate? I see very little evidence that he has.

11/11/2006 12:55:00 PM  
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11/14/2006 01:51:00 AM  
Blogger Alienated Wannabe said...

Dear Pete,

First of all, thank you very much for engaging me in this forum. I am both grateful and honored that you would take the time to do so. I think conversations such as this are vital to the wellbeing of our Republic. The fact that you would take the time to share your thoughts speaks well of you. Again, I thank you very sincerely.

Secondly, I agree with you that the topic of abortion is very polarizing.

But, I differ with your implication that it should therefore be avoided. My thinking is precisely the opposite: Abortion is polarizing because it deals with some of the most fundamentally important, soul wrenching issues of our day-issues that strike a nerve, issues that simply must be addressed.

Over a million abortions are performed in the United States every year!

To pretend that we are unaware of that 800 pound gorilla sitting in our living room would simply be ridiculous. Granted, if one believed that those million abortions merely represented the disposal of extraneous tissue, then one could more easily rationalize away the significance of the phenomenon. But, if one sincerely believed-or even recognized the possibility-that those million abortions represented the willful taking of an innocent human life, unborn children, then the act of passively remaining silent would be considerably more difficult. Indeed, to do nothing would be cowardly and immoral.

I choose not to be that kind of person. Please do not expect me to apologize.

Now, just as I choose not to be cowed into remaining silent, so too do I choose not to see my "pro-choice" brothers and sisters as being monsters. Some may actually be rather disappointing in their character, but I choose to extend the benefit of the doubt to the majority.

I choose to believe that most are motivated by a sincere compassion for those women who find themselves facing very difficult circumstances. They want to respect their supposed right to respond to these situations in private and to make the hard choices alone.

I too can conceive of difficult scenarios that defy easy answers. My heart also is filled with compassion for the women who face these situations. And, I certainly do not feel comfortable in forcing my judgments upon any of them. However, in weighing both sides of the issue in my heart and mind, the consequences seem so much greater on the side of taking a life than on the side of legally requiring a pregnancy to go to term. Thus, I am "pro-life."

I honestly believe that society has the right, indeed the responsibility, to restrain abortion in most of the situations wherein it is currently administered today. The legitimately extreme and difficult scenarios constitute a sufficiently small percentage of the abortions in this country that they cannot be used to justify a larger policy of abortion on demand.

True, rape is not always an easy crime to prove, and yet in this country we still insist upon granting a trial to the accused before we send him to jail. We don't call it "divining." We call it justice.

Likewise, I am convinced that people of goodwill are capable of developing a process that would allow a judge to discretely review evidence and testimony in private, while determining whether or not to grant an order for an abortion. Would it be a perfect system? No. Would it be preferable to abortion on demand, at the rate of over a million per year? Yes.

Further, pregnancies that result from incest can me demonstrated via prenatal genetic testing. And, there are more than enough physicians who are capable of providing expert testimony as to whether or not a woman's life is in danger because of a pregnancy.

In short, the difficulty we face is not the insurmountable obstacle that you make it out to be. But, you are correct in recognizing that we do have to address these issues. That, I suspect, is why the proposed deeper restrictions on abortion failed in South Dakota. Despite the fact that the state is dominated by people who are pro-life like me, the good folks there surely did not want to go from one unacceptable extreme to another.

May we all, then, find the right balance. Because, we are a million lives per year out of balance now. May God help us to do so, I pray.

Love, Your Friend & Brother,
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