Tuesday, June 20, 2006

Forgiveness

There are some actions in politics that elevate you to "bad guy" status. Simple ideology can't do it. There has to be something else, something more sinister and dangerous. I've given a lot of space to Ridgway/Towner because it is wrong to 1) bully and intimidate those who hold different views than you or actively oppose you politically 2) use the courts to deny the political rights of other U.S. citizens. I'd like Rob Miller to have the final word on this matter. There are still a lot of bad feelings and suspicion toward Ridgway/Towner, but let's learn from their mistakes, and as citizens forgive Mike Rigway and Mark Towner.

11 Comments:

Anonymous Jesus said...

Good post. I forgive you too, Ethan.

6/20/2006 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ethan quit sniffing your own farts. If you would have attended the GOP State Convention or even the Central Committee meeting this past weekend, you would have realized that Mike's "political rights" were never taken away.

He had every chance to run and win elections without any real resistance of any kind. Of course Mike perceives just the opposite, but lets face it, he isn't working with a full deck of cards to begin with.

6/20/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger Mike Ridgway, Salt Lake City said...

I'm still confused. What are we forgiving Mike Ridgway for, again?

6/20/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger Mike Ridgway, Salt Lake City said...

(continued...) For exercising my first amendment rights of political free speech or for being gauche enough to think that my rights of political free speech are equivalent to any other American citizen's?

6/21/2006 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Reed L. Clegg said...

Mike - For being an overdramatic, scary, freaky, angry, shrill and sqeeky screamer who see's the boogieman under every shadow. You can't win stuff, nor do deserve to, because you freak people out.

That all aside, you're still a good person, you care more than most people, you'reinvolved and engaged no matter how spooky you are, and that says a lot about the guy inside you, stuffed and hog tied behind all that anger and conspiracy.

In addition, I will say that for all the weird that you embody, you are leaps and bounds above Towner on the "deserves the oxegen they use" list. He's just a dick. You, at least, stand for something other than syncophantic fellatiation of the powers that be.

PS, pardon my spelling, I'm just so startled that I'm spending an ounce of time on this topic that I don't care.

6/21/2006 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous a said...

Ridgeway,
Seriously, take the high road, dude. Save some face while you can. You've got family. They are all you've got in the end. Don't embarrass them further.

6/21/2006 08:46:00 AM  
Blogger Mike Ridgway, Salt Lake City said...

OK "A". I'm teachable. Give me some specifics.

6/21/2006 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous aaron in bountiful said...

Mr. Ridgway (sorry about the misspell the first time),

I'm the one who posted under 'a' last time. My fingers posted before I was ready, sorry! Anyhow, as an impartial observer (take it for what it is)you are coming off with a serious politically based axe to grind. Passion for what you do is one thing, however intentionally "digging a pit for your brother" (to paraphrase) on multiple occasions (whether you can rationalize it or not) and not affording others the same courtesies you would want and expect for yourself, is something entirely different. It comes off as shrill and embarassing for not only you but your family who may carry your same last name and have other engagements in life apart from your political designs. Thoughts of, "I wonder what those Ridgway kids are being taught in that house with a crazy father like that" will come to people's mind and manifest in their actions whether they be right in doing so or not.

My suggestion of taking the hight road was simply an observation after reading your incessant "tit for tat" and sarcastic responses to everything posted on these somewhat irrelevant blogs that people keep more for hobby than anything else. The more you do it, the more you embarraass yourself and those who carry your name. The public is forgiving for the most part, more than you may realize. But they usually won't forgive someone who pushes the envelope to the point of being a nuisance (take Dell Scahnze for example) Take the high road, dude. What is done is done. You can try to make it better or dig further down. Power and winning will never compensate for family.

I apologize for the long post, but I tend to ramble sometimes.

6/21/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger Mike Ridgway, Salt Lake City said...

I apologize for the long post as well. That said, here it is.
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So, Aaron, I'm trying to understand you but I have to say I don't think you're making any sense.

The Utah blogosphere has focused almost exclusively on one aspect of my long involvement in the world of Utah politics: the case of Towner v. Ridgway, i.e., the Towner's bogus (my opinion) use of the courts in attempting to silence a whistleblower in the Utah Republican Party -- a whistleblower who just happened to be also running for US Senate at the Utah Republican Party's 2006 nominating convention.

So let's review:

Mark Towner and Carrie Towner make sworn statements in court to the effect that they have experienced behaviors on my part that justify the imposition of an "anti-stalking" injunction against me that includes a prohibition against me attending any and all Republican meetings and events -- even "Rallys" [sic].

The Utah blogosphere sees the Towner's last minute injunction for what it is, a flagrant attempt to disadvantage me at the state convention in my campaign for the US Senate nomination and in my attempts to defeat Joe Cannon's proposed automatic delegate amendment to the state Republican Party Constitution.

Mark Towner lashes back at the bloggers, successfully intimidating (apparently) "Utah Conservative," whoever she/he is, into obliterating numerous archived interchanges (embarrassing to the Towner's as they were) between the two parties.

My attorney and I go back to court to have the injunction dissolved.

In order to "save face," the Towner's appear in court to vehemently resist our motion for revocation.

The judge substantially modifies the injunction to protect my free speech rights but does not completely dissolve the order.

The bloggers weigh in once again.

Ethan Millard suggests the judge may have gotten it wrong but implies that it was somehow my fault.

Rob Miller prays that Mark and I can find a way to forgive each other.

I post comments to both Rob and Ethan complete with a link to the letter I distributed at the SLCoGOP Convention about Mark, imploring each to help me understand what I've done that I need to be forgiven for.

Neither has yet responded.

You give me your helpful advice. I ask for specifics. You provide none. And that's where we stand today.

Am I coming through here, Aaron? I'm asking for specific instances (recent or otherwise) where I have been guilty of the general crimes of which you accuse me.

You have the benefit of anonymity. I have my name on the line. The match is therefore heavily tilted in your favor.

That being the case, please explain why you are hiding behind vague generalities and epithets when complete candor will cost you nothing?

6/21/2006 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous aaron said...

Never mind Mike. I don't care as much as you do about it. My interest is spent. You asked me to respond before and I did. Sorry to waste your time. Good luck.

6/22/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger Mike Ridgway, Salt Lake City said...

No need to apologize. You gave me an excellent opportunity to tell my side of the story, which I appreciate very much. Good luck to you as well.

6/22/2006 02:07:00 PM  

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