Wednesday, May 10, 2006

Mayor Rocky Anderson In The News

The Tribune gave some of its space Sunday to a profile of Mayor Rock Anderson. There was nothing new. Mayor Anderson and his apologists complained he's misunderstood, and asked for a free pass for Salt Lake's impotent Mayor just because he's "passionate". He's passionate but Salt Lake City is still losing out to the suburbs. Sandy and Ogden are surging (Ogden being where Stuart Reid has taken his prowess). SLC has to pin all of its economic hopes on the LDS development. Mayor Anderson's bungling of the transplant monument was so rookie it was pathetic. He's been in for six years, you'd think he'd understand some basics of public funding. And Mayor Anderson wonders why people think he's disengaged.


Blogger pramahaphil said...

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5/10/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What transplant monument?

5/10/2006 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes it is good to have people with passion or who are passionate about something as long as their behavior does not create the negative backlash that the mayor's does. Passion can have a positive side.

I don't think we are losing anything out to Ogden. Every time I go there which is quite often I am reminded that most of their progress is lip service and talk. Even when some of the talk moves to action they will always be behind.

5/10/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for Stuart Reid...he is no savior. Does he have good ideas, yes, but he is surrounded with controversy and negative publicity which does not helpful to Ogden. He has similar passion that angers people.

5/10/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't exactly say that Ogden is "surging" right now. That might change in a few years, but right now there are still a lot dumpy areas in Ogden, and the projects that the City has taken on haven't been Ogden's salvation, and now the City's in something along the lines of $70 million in debt.

5/10/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Diamondback Jack said...


Put your comment back up!

5/10/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest irony is Corradini is the one who started all of the ICLEI and greenhouse reduction and clean fuels intiatives that Rocky is touting.

Rocky has done one thing; orange flags.

5/10/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5/10/2006 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5/10/2006 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Rocko's Dad Marvin said...

Yes, its true, DeeDee was the Mayor who did. Rocky is the one who lives off of her good work.

By the way, its BULLSHEET ROCKO!

Love ya,


5/10/2006 10:02:00 PM  
Blogger Shawn said...

The library, the university TRAX line, and the resolution to the Deedster's Main St. Plaza fiasco. I noticed these things are noticeably absent when we say Rocky has done "nothing."

The transplant monument? Good lord, is that the best example of "bungling" that we can come up with? Seriously, if Rocky were to cure cancer, this site would probably say something to the effect of "Now, I suppose the Rockster thinks that he should get recognition after curing cancer. Whatever. Instead of curing cancer, there's a city that needs to be run, and no one's running it now. Oh yeah, and if you're going to cure cancer, that's no excuse to be an anti-Mormon bigot."

Also, the claim that SLC is losing out to Sandy and, *chuckle*, Ogden, really leads me to believe that when it comes to Rocky, our boy Ethan has really fallen off his rocker. I grew up around Ogden, and I think it does have potential (once the Mayor realizes that a vibrant downtown does not revolve around ice cream parlors and super-duper rec centers), and I'd like to see it succeed (and no, a gondola does not equal success), but SLC is the place. Sandy, Provo, WVC, and every other city of significant population is seen as Stepford. SLC's success is hers to lose, and if she fails in the big global desirable-city beauty contest, it'll be the fault of the republican circle-jerks on the hill and the (shrinking) majority of Utahns who consistently resist new and better ideas.

5/11/2006 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Logan said...

The University TRAX line was a given. It is no grande idea by Rocky. Even a two year old could have figured that a TRAX line along 4th south was the next best way to expand. The University TRAX line was a given not a great idea.

The Main Street Plaza fiasco? Open your mind Shawn. It is a nice place to go and walk around. You don't have to be Mormon to enjoy it. You just have to be respectful.

Even if Rocky did cure cancer he probably would only let his buddies that drive eco-friendly cars and homosexuals enjoy it. That is the point that is being driven home. Rocky is selfish and a boo hoo mayor.

You are the last person from this state that thinks Rocky has or can do anything at all. He is done and will be forgotten. The only memory I will have of Rocky are the stupid orange flags. Good legacy........I guess.

5/11/2006 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ogden has been a dump and the armpit of Utah for years. Having lived there a few years back and visiting every now then reminds me that with all of their supposed improvement initiatives nothing has really changed. If anything SLC is losing out the Davis County not Weber.

5/11/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ogden's central business district has been improved, but most of the area bounded by 20th, 30th, Harrison Blvd. and Washington Blvd. is still pretty much a hole. And I doubt that Godfrey's gondola is going to be Ogden's saving grace either.

5/11/2006 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems to me that the only things Sandy is "winning" at are things that involve having a lot of space. Well, suburbs have been winning the space battle over cities for a long time, mostly because they have more, umm, space.

What is it you want Rocky to "do" as mayor, and why do you think another mayor would have been able to do it?

5/11/2006 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me that one of Rocky's managing problems has been that he seems to be driven by an anti LDS stance that colors everything. To wit: No move to Gateway for Nordstrom until the LDS Church buys Crossroads Plaza then a sudden switch to a yes to Gateway for Nordstrom. Settled the Main Street issue? Wasn't the strategy sue, sue, sue, until every conceivable court said it was an okay deal?

And let's remember that Ogden was the place settled by non-Mormons and had a disproportionate number of brothels and bars. Any wonder they are still trying to dig out from under?

The LDS Church has contributed a great deal to make this a wonderful place to live and so have the people that make up that "shrinking" majority. If they were really what Shawn says "resist new and better ideas", we'd still be driving horse and buggies. Our wide streets are amazing and that was definitely a new and better idea in 1850, and we continue to move forward in a way that draws people from all walks of life to this state.

5/11/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Responding to the 1:11 poster, you are wrong about Main Street. Rocky/SLC entered into the deal with the LDS Church after the Tenth Circuit ruled that speech restrictions could not be imposed on the City-owned easement. Salt Lake City was actually a defendant in that case, and it (and the Church) lost.

Then, Rocky/SLC decided to sell the easement to the Church.

After that, the Unitarian Church and ACLU sued again, saying that the sale was an unconstitutional support of religion. They lost and then gave up.

So Rocky clearly helped out the LDS Church on that one.

5/11/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

Again, the SLC library had NOTHING to do with Rocky. The new library was planned long before he came to office. DUH. You think these things pop up over night? It took many years of planning.

5/11/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger Shawn said...

Re: Stenar

The library had ALOT to do with Rocky. Yes, the library had been bonded for had been in the process for some time, but the celebrated building design was the result of a collaboration between him and the building's architect, Moshe Safdie. Do you think anybody from the Amazing Vanilla City Council contributed to that design?

Also, alot of hay was made about the Mayor's relationship with the council in the last election. Alot of it stems from the fact that the council would not stop hemming and hawing about the U. TRAX extension. Nancy Saxton, in all her happy-angry glory, demanded that there be no intermittent stops along 4th South. So, you know, basically the City would get all of the impact and none of the benefit. Brilliant! Is it any wonder why anyone with any vision doesn't get along with these guys? Guys like Eric Jergensen and Dave Buhler couldn't possess an inspired thought if Moroni himself whacked them over the head with his golden plates.

5/11/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Eric Jergensen win?

5/11/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rocky and his inspired architect brought us a library that is riddle with structural problems, has a roof that leaks, whose brick pavers are shattered and crumbling and whose children's library design has made it a haven for pedophiles? Way to go!

5/11/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

HA HA HA... Shawn, now you're claiming Rocky helped design the library? Amusing. The Library board chose and the City Council approved of the architectural firm which designed the library. Again, Rocky had NOTHING to do with it.

5/11/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

"In early 1999, the SL Library Board of Directors selected the architectural firm of Moshe Safdie and Associates in conjunction with Salt Lake City architects, VCBO Architecture, to design the new Main Library. The ground-breaking ceremony was held on October 21, 2000." -Task Force of the DC Public Library System.
Rocky didn't take office until 3. January 2000... after the architect had been hired and done most of the design work.

5/11/2006 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

If anything, the new Main Library could be counted as yet another success of Deedee Corradini since she was instrumental in getting the Library board to decide to build a new bldg., etc.

5/11/2006 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stenar 5
Shawn 0

5/11/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger Shawn said...

This is from the a 13 Feb 2000 article from the Tribune. It describes Safdie's creative process in creating the design for the library:

"In the past nine months, Safdie has jogged Salt Lake City's streets, climbed to the highest turret in the City-County building -- twice -- and drawn on napkins with Anderson. He wonders about the future of an eastern leg of light rail that is supposed to stop at the library's front door. Safdie worries about Utah liquor laws that could prohibit restaurants on the block from selling glasses of wine with dinner."

So, the Mayor is elected in 1999, although he doesn't formally take office until Jan 2000. He works with Safdie on the design from the moment he is elected. A concept design is spat out and a model is built, with the structural plans to follow.

But I guess the Mayor should have not drawn the "haven for pedophiles" on the napkin. Damn liberal.

5/11/2006 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

Actually, designs (although not final) for the library were submitted from several firms. The Library Board chose Safdie's design in 1999.
Even according to the article you quote, Rocky was only the Mayor-elect for 2-3 of the 9 months Safdie was coming to SLC to work on final touches for the design.
One of the big mistakes that came out of this collaboration between Rocky and Moshe was getting rid of the mixed-use block and sending us back to the old single use of a space, which we have everywhere in this city... which requires us to drive everywhere.
And as people who have been to Vancouver, CA can attest, our library is almost identical to the one Moshe designed in that city a couple of years prior. So, I don't think Rocky had much to do with the design beyond saying that the men's room should be on the left and not the right.

5/11/2006 06:55:00 PM  
Blogger Stenar said...

Shawn: interesting... in the exact same article you quoted from, you neglected to mention this quote further up in the story: "It's not so different from the design Safdie used to wow an architect selection committee last April [1999]. But for nine months, Massachusetts-based Safdie has met with residents, city leaders and library staffers to refine the details."

5/11/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stenar- 7
Shawn- 0

5/12/2006 08:19:00 AM  

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